Tag: Legacy Virus
264 – Autotune the Phalanx
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In which we celebrate our 100th episode with producer Matt Hunter; you should always be kind to robots; Stryfe has a lot of very petty contingency plans; Britanic is bad at helping; we explore a peculiar pairing of book and arc; Charles Xavier has his moments; and Zero and Douglock defiy destiny.
X-PLAINED:
- The current occupant of Fantomex’s body
- Excalibur #78-80
- The Douglock “chronicles”
- Zero
- Douglock
- Several feelings
- Britanic (again)
- Camping fonts
- Drones
- Radio Shack
- Helping
- Pentagon-sense
- What being human is all about
- Charles Xavier, hero of the beach
- Rory Campbell’s voice
- Technoorganic vs. transmode viruses
- Kymera
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As Mentioned in Episode 259 – Kwannon Leap
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LINKS & FURTHER HAWK TALK:
We discussed the first version of Psylocke’s transformation in Episode 137 – Kicky Kinko Killers; and the second, which introduced Kwannon, in Episode 222 – A Tale of Two Betsys.
Night on Earth is a brilliant movie, and also the main source of our Roberto Begnini hipster cred.
If you like your dives deep and granular, we highly recommend Chris and Robert’s dialogic annotations, HoX PoX ToX.
259 – Kwannon Leap
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In which fix-it fic goes canon (or vice versa); Psylocke is a complicated individual and/or individuals; assassins have complicated personal lives; it is probably ethical to tell your teammates about your camera eyes; Beast takes over Blue Team; we get our first tease of Generation X; Sabretooth is a surprisingly fun narrator; that Hickman fellow seems to know what he’s doing; and you should totally come see us at FlameCon!
X-PLAINED:
- X-Men #31-33
- What Forge does in his downtime
- Several retcons, including a metaretcon
- Psylocke (Betsy Braddock)
- Revanche (Kwannon)
- What we are not wearing
- Hawks
- Digital Chameleon
- Assassin romance
- What actually (probably) (mostly) happened to Betsy and Kwannon
- The Eye Fairy
- The death of Kwannon
- The future of the Xavier School
- The last will and testament of Emma Grace Frost
- Rogue and Gambit’s breakfast-cereal habits
- All the eyes you’ve been given
- Nyorin’s “diary”
- A murder cliché
- Genevieve Darceneaux
- BabyGoth Gambit
- Henri LeBeau and his majestic mustache
- Our (very early) thoughts on HoX/PoX
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As Mentioned in Episode 252 – Snakes on a Trolley
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LINKS & FURTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION
- We did indeed review Dark Phoenix; and you can find that review–and links to everywhere else we’ve been talking about it online–right here.
- Friend, have you seen the wonders of the Wolverine Meets Freddie Mercury saga? Either way, here it is (plus a pretty splendid coda).
- You can find the comments Miles mentioned attached to Episode 241 – Conducive to Moral Subversion.
- The Trolley Problem is a pretty interesting ethical thought experiment and also a pretty interesting way to send yourself spiraling into an existential crisis!
- Yes, Miles’s stepdad actually has a trolley company.
- Please read all of Max Wittert’s Jean & Scott comics immediately.
252 – Snakes on a Trolley
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In which Miles invokes Freddie Mercury; Polaris is more competent than the rest of X-Factor put together; Armageddon theology does not intersect well with superpowers (or politics, or anything else); Val joins a cult (kind of); Random joins the team (kind of); Haven is a surprisingly nonviolent mass-murderer; Havok is confused by women; and good guys don’t have orbital lasers.
X-PLAINED:
- Hope across the multiverse
- X-Factor #97-100
- Haven (Radha Dastoor)
- Man, Mutant, and the New Humanity
- A very fashionable outfit
- One of the greatest Marvel art submissions of all time
- Trinket the cat
- Catalogs
- A dramatic entrance
- Mahapralaya (kind of)
- Jamie Madrox vs. Jamie Madrox vs. the Legacy Virus
- The Trolley Problem
- Possession
- Orbital lasers as a metric of morality
- Monsoon (Aloba Dastoor)
- The apparent death of Jamie Madrox
- Our favorite takes on the Phoenix
- Who our X-Universe counterparts should be
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As Mentioned in Episode 251 – Triple Word Score
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Here’s Ben Martin on the Legacy Virus as an AIDS allegory:
I wanted to get a deeper take on the Legacy Virus as an analogy for AIDS. As you’ve mentioned more than once on the pod, it’s clear that’s what the writers had in mind, but I feel it misses the mark in a couple of important ways over the life of the story element.
My first issue with the analogy is that the big stigma about AIDS in the early days was that it only affected gay men, when in fact that was not the case. I was born with a genetic blood disorder called hemophilia, and many of the kids and staff from the hemophilia summer camp I attended as a teenager in the 1990s contracted HIV from contaminated blood products used for treatment. While I was fortunate to avoid the contaminated products, many I grew up with did not, as half of all people with hemophilia in the U.S., including 90% of those with severe hemophilia, contracted HIV. You may remember Ryan White, who did a lot of public outreach about HIV and AIDS after contracting it through treatment for his hemophilia. With the exception of Moira MacTaggart, the Legacy Virus only targeted mutants, meaning it missed the mark on the way AIDS was incorrectly and maliciously used as a propaganda weapon against homosexuals, when in fact it was something that could affect anyone who contracted it. Leaving out that aspect is a disservice to the wide range of people affected by HIV and AIDS in my view. I would have loved to see a human villain use the Legacy Virus to stir up hatred, only to find out they contracted it themselves. Maybe that’s what they tried to do with Moira, but I recall either Beast or Xavier saying it’s likely she only contracted it through prolonged exposure to it while studying it.
My second issue is that, through the magic of comic book science, the Legacy Virus was altogether wiped out (with the exception of a few samples in test tubes that popped up in an X-Force run as far as I know). My friends who are still living with HIV and AIDS today do so with a decreased quality of life and tons of medication. They are, fortunately, alive, but their lives are not what they were before. That’s a smaller nitpick, but I personally think it would have been really interesting to see characters contract the virus, receive the cure, but still be living with some consequences of the disease in some way, whether it be a change to their mutant powers or just poor health in general or something like that.
On a side note, if you can find it, there’s a fantastic 2010 documentary called “Bad Blood: A Cautionary Tale” currently available on Amazon Prime that explores the impact of HIV on the hemophilia community. It’s very powerful and is an important story.
LINKS & FURTHER THEORIES
- You can hear about Infectia in happier times on Episode 92 – Living in Ship.
- Jay recently discussed the backup story from Classic X-Men #43 (along with some other Phoenix-related comics) on fellow X-cast Battle of the Atom!
251 – Triple Word Score
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In which Jay proposes a new way of comparing superheroes; Beast faces an ethical dilemma; Mister Sinister has an Xavier moment; Sabretooth is a terrible houseguest; Cyclops totally gets what you see in Wolverine; Psylocke would absolutely be into hunting humans for sport; Sage probably vapes; rich people are definitely not like us; Shinobi Shaw is his own best friend; and Classic X-Men backup stories are canonical as hell.
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- Blue Team vs. Gold Team
- X-Men #27-29
- Threnody
- The fate of Infectia
- One of Mister Sinister’s favorite aliases
- Dr. Gordon Lefferts
- Several complicated choices
- A very frustrating cover
- A secret meeting
- The dubious evolution of Charles Xavier
- Communication
- An invitation
- A sick burn
- Rich people
- The key to happiness
- The theoretical adventures of Honey Badger and Princess Powerful
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As Mentioned in Episode 237 – X-Treme
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LINKS & FURTHER DIVERSIONS
- Fun fact: Aron Wisenfeld is the only person Jay has ever seen spell his given name like Jay’s dad.
- This is King Radical. (He also has a skateboard.)
237 – X-Treme
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In which there is only one Big Pine Key; Empyrean is actually a pretty sensible dude; the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants are ride-or-die; you should probably avoid setting X-Men stories in Phoenix, Arizona; Adam X the X-Treme is the Longshot of the 1990s; Miles adopts a ship; heteronormativity is why we can’t have nice things; and you should really seriously come see us at ECCC!
X-PLAINED:
- Why Nate Grey is Like That
- X-Men Annual #2
- X-Force Annual #2
- The worst book Aron Wisenfeld ever drew
- Big Pine Key
- Empyrean
- Jonathan Chambers
- A very fancy bathrobe
- What’s going on in Psylocke’s head
- Pallative care for late-stage Legacy virus patients
- Revanche’s fairly bleak legacy
- X-Men: Time Gliders
- How to dress to discuss Adam X the X-Treme
- Adam X the X-Treme
- Personal lettering styles
- Michelle
- Flashing, but not like that
- Martin Strong
- Miles’s new ship
- Subtext vs. canon
- Heteronormativity
- X-Crayons
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