Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

464 – The Cigarettes of Damocles

In which X-Force is kind of silly; that really isn’t what “quantum” means; polite and lawful are two entirely different things, and Sam Guthrie is only one of them; Selene vogues; and the Hellfire Club plays the dead girlfriend card.

X-PLAINED:

  • Blackheart
  • The Damocles Foundation (more) (again)
  • Lucas Bartholomew Guthrie
  • The difference between prisons and jails
  • X-Force #98-98
  • Whether Dr. Octopus enjoys the literary stylings of Elmore Leonard
  • One way to get out of prison
  • The Glitterbox
  • An unsuccessful heist
  • Celestial cigarettes and/or golems
  • Thomas and/or Tyler Zebulon and/or Zeke Guthrie
  • Demon Bears as urban pests
  • Selene, Always Voguing
  • Gatherers
  • Various evil scientists
  • The Sword
  • Junkyard life
  • Lenny Delmonico
  • Psychic rodeos
  • Nightmare chambers
  • Bat sex
  • An offer Sunspot can’t refuse
  • Hank McCoy’s villain arc
  • New Mutant superlatives

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8 comments

  1. When you said that Bobby found himself transformed into a huge star, until you mentioned agents and cheering crowds, I seriously thought you meant he was fusing hydrogen into helium and igniting everything in his vicinity.

    X-Men!

    1. Yeah, that’s usually Havok’s nightmare scenario…. along with finishing his PhD… and taking on a position of responsibility where he won’t be overshadowed by, or in conflict with, his brother.

  2. Did anyone else feel like the tangents have been getting a *little* stretched-out lately? I enjoy a good side joke every now and then but for the past few episodes it’s felt like, in the absence of anything substantial to say about these storylines, every other panel just spirals off into a 2-3 minute gag…

  3. Would the term you were thinking of for second hand items be “pre-loved”?

    Not a term I am fond of, as it does seem to be a tad saccharine, but I do see it a lot.

  4. Thanks you all for the great episode! As usual!
    Big fan from Brazil here.
    A few things pop to mind when rereading those issues and listening to you. One is how Bobby’s whitewashing process was unfortunately already underway here. It’s incredible and sad to compare this version with his first appearance in The New Mutants. Not to mention that his hometown has been inconsistently referred to (up to this late 90s) as either Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo. These issues also briefly feature some of the basic stereotypes about Brazil in superhero comics, which concern the Amazon rainforest and its native peoples.
    Anyway just sharing some of the thoughts that this great episode raised in me.
    Thank you and congratulations for the show! I’ve been following it for years!

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